The Tony Danza Connection

The news of a teaching hospital on the site of the former Newcomb Hospital is in the papers today. Instead of Touro College heading up the school, developer Tony Danza has enlisted the UMDNJ. Hopefully the UMDNJ is now flying right after the tumultuous scandals that rocked the place under previous administrations.

“This would be a branch campus of the School of Osteopathic Medicine in Stratford,” said Tom Cavalieri, the school’s dean, who also took the tour. “Students that are here would spend their four years here. The commonality would be some shared services as far as faculty and administration. But it would operate as a freestanding campus.”

Developer Tony Danza has partnered with Archetto Construction of Vineland to acquire the site and create preliminary design plans.

However, I am not quite comfortable with Danza taking the lead on this project. I still wonder about the connection between Lou Magazzu and Rabbi Neustadt. Neustadt, a Brooklyn resident if you recall, donated $5,000 to Lou’s failed NACo slush fund. We understand that there is a connection between Neustadt and Touro College.  We know there is a connection between Danza and Touro. We know that Touro was initially involved with this project.

Doctors and developers joined forces Thursday to launch plans for a health care center and medical school within the former Newcomb Medical Center.
Passaic County real estate developer Tony Danza said he worked for two years to form a coalition of experts in clinical practice, long-term care and medical education who now intend to set up services inside a
$70 million medical condominium.

“We fought, we struggled, but we’re now at that point,” said Danza on Thursday.

He introduced Jay Sexter, a founder of three medical schools in conjunction with New York-based Touro College, which plans to launch a school of osteopathic medicine within the complex.

You might ponder, what is the problem? Cumberland County will benefit from a teaching hospital. I won’t argue that point. Anything that provides employment for skilled labor and high tech jobs is a net positive for the county. And we have an added benefit of state of the art health care. This can only be good.

It is the politics behind it that are of concern. Is Touro College at all involved in this? If they are out of the picture, then this will be a net gain. However, if they are involved, one could expect even more scandal in the future, such as the 2009 audit of the Orange Regional Medical Center.

In a letter from DiNapoli’s office to State Education Commissioner Richard Mills and James Ross, president of the Higher Education Services Corporation, Touro owns the state $3.1 million that it was overpaid “because school officials certified 16 students as eligible for 21 Tuition Assistance Program awards.”

The auditors came up with that figure after testing the accuracy of the 29,349 TAP certifications the school awarded for the three-year period ended June 30, 2006, by reviewing a statistical sample of 150 randomly selected awards.

Based on the disallowed grants, DiNapoli’s audit recommends the Higher Education Services Corporation recover the $3.1 million from Touro.

Touro plans to develop a college for physical therapists, advanced nursing degrees and other allied medical professions.

The college would be part of a project by New Jersey developer Tony Danza, who plans to buy the ORMC Horton campus and redeveloping it into a multi-purpose health related facility to include aside from Touro, a nursing home, full medical college and student housing.

Or perhaps the scandal of computer tampering and accepting bribes by an admissions administrator:

Baron was convicted on most of the 36 charges and faces up to four years in prison when sentenced by Justice Thomas Farber on July 13. Prosecutor Jonathan Lenzer said he will recommend up to 16 years.

The 36-year-old Baron was Touro’s admissions director at its Manhattan School of Career and Applied Studies. He was one of four Touro officials accused of accepting thousands of dollars from six students and non-students.

Or perhaps the most bizarre story – that of Jim McGreevey’s gay lover, Golan Cipel extorting McGreevey to allow the college to open a teaching hospital in Hackensack.

Touro’s earlier attempts to expand into New Jersey were sidetracked by scandals. In the summer of 2004, its major financial backer, Charles Kushner, was arrested on federal charges that included hiring a prostitute in a scheme to tamper with an FBI witness.

Weeks later, the college found itself in the middle of the Gov. James E. McGreevey-Golan Cipel affair. Cipel, one of the school’s paid advisers, reportedly offered to keep his sexual encounters with McGreevey secret if, among other things, the governor let Touro open a medical school.

So what does this all mean? I fervently hope that this project at Newcomb Hospital is all on the up and up. We hope that Touro College is not involved simply due to their history of walking a thin line insofar as the law is concerned.

And I still want to know the connection between Lou and Rabbi Neustadt, the $5,000 gift to Lou’s imaginary PAC, Neustadt and Touro, and the deal that was announced last year.

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31 Responses to The Tony Danza Connection

  1. Guess-Who says:

    Jeff VD told me to my face that Touro was out of the picture when I spoke with him 2 weeks ago.

    If they (Touro) are still INVOLVED,I would like to know.

  2. Calhoun says:

    Senator Van Drew will say anything to your face. It is was he says and does behind your back that is important.

  3. Calhoun says:

    Carl and Ms. Santiago are to be commended for connecting the dots on this story. It stands to reason that donations coming to Lou from Brooklyn, New York should be srutinized carefully. Honestly, why would anyone from Brooklyn in New York City donate handsomely to a freeholder in Cumberland County, NJ, unless, of course, he wanted something in return? Does anyone honestly believe that Lou is so dynamic a person that people in NYC have to contribute to his cause?! If you do, please seek help immediately. If you want some more thoughts on Rabbi Neustadt go to the Unorthodox Jew website at http://theunorthodoxjew.blogspot.com/2007/05/seeking-additional-victims-of-rabbi.html . Never forget that Lou Magazzu took money from this person. Also never forget that many in our County or that represent our County (e.g., Van Drew, Finch, Quinn, Salmon etc) speak highly of Mr. Magazzu, a man who willingly took money from Neustadt.

  4. Bridgeton Gary says:

    What is wrong with you guys? A Jew in Brooklyn who is involved in medical schools donates to a guy who is involved in trying to bring a medical school to Vineland. And?…… This matters because?….. Grow up. Anyone involved in development gets involved in the people and the government of the project or did you not know that?

  5. Calhoun says:

    I think we are grown up Gary. First his being a Jew has nothing to do with it. You brought that up. His being from New York is relevant in that it is yet another example of outside money influencing Cumberland County politics. This site has already well documented some of the questionable actions made regarding Touro College, so no need to revisit that (see earlier posts). You can try and sanitize this by claiming that “anyone involved in development gets involved in the people and government of the project” but when that “involvement” includes large donations to a politician’s personal campaign, that politician’s independence is comprised. Can any rational person look at the avalanche of money that comes from outside interests to the Cumberland County Democratic Organization, such as that from Camden County, and honestly say that our Democratic County Freeholders truly represent our County? They may be elected by us in the County, but they represent others who live outside the County. Just look at the pattern of contract awards (so many are given to firms outside the County), and how it correlates with the pattern of campaign contributions. Yes, Gary, many of us do know that many “involved in development” get “involved in the people and government of the project.” However, many of us see the great danger of this when it goes too far. And in our County it has gone way too far. Our freeholders are supposed to award contracts to the lowest bidder; instead what they have been doing is awarding contracts to higher bidders with political connections (either directly or indirectly through their employment of union help). In doing so, they are selling our government to the highest bidder. I know Gary it’s naïve of me to think this way; I need to grow up. Nothing to see here according to Gary; move along.

  6. Paul E Tikal says:

    Is Archetto construction the same Archetto that Lou has appointed to the county planning board development review?

  7. Calhoun says:

    If the Archetto appointed is Vincent Archetto than the answer is yes; I believe Mr. Archetto is president and owner. Previously Sid Brody was also involved with Archetto Construction (as well as Brody’s Furniture). Sid Brody was a well known figure in Cumberland Co. Mr. Brody passed away in February. Back then Magazzu noted that Mr. Brody was a supporter of his. Mr. Brody and his companies (Archetto Construction, previously Seaboard Developers) contributed to both Democratic and Republican campaigns. Some examples: according to ELEC, in 2009, Archetto Construction gave $250 to the Cumberland County Republican Organization and $1,000 to Chris Christie’s campaign (it also contributed to Democrats); in 2006 and 2008, Mr. Brody gave $250 and $1000, respectively, to the Cumberland County Democratic Organization (he also gave to Republican campaigns); from 2003-2005 notable contributions from Seaboard Development were to Nick Asselta and Jeff Van Drew.

  8. WuLi says:

    Basically they were covering all the bases – with no loyalty to any party.

  9. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Calhoun,
    When did Cumberland County become so prosperous that it could shun outside investment? How many of our home grown millionaires have stepped up for any community good that didn’t just have their name on it? Do Mr Scarpas 100’s of millions show up without public money carrying the main burden? You and Wuli posted links to Jewish websites because it has a mysterious effect on your conspiracy story, not because anything in those links is directly related to anything you say you know. Where is the Catholic refrence for Sweenys contribution? I’m sure he contributed to some church along the way that had a sex scandal. Where is the moral high ground with the unions? They donated to Lou to undoubtedly get their members noticed or hired for work in the county. Now you cry because they are working? You also cry when they are laid off! How about the non-union engineers and developers who contributed to Lou. Did they do it for fun or did they feel the need to make their presence known in the tradition of ALL politics, through their money. How many opportunities did the R’s offer to loyal followers to contribute to their candidates via, PAC, lunch, dinner, cocktail party etc? It’s no mystery, it happens all of the time in both major parties. And while we are talking about contributions when are you going to promote a candidate that promises to not appoint his party faithful and reward party contributors with contracts? Are their any out there?

    You and Wuli may not be clueless and your opinions may be founded on some facts but seriously, every dollar spent isn’t controlled by Lou. I bet Lou controls more than you but a lot less than you think. Fortunately for Lou your web presence keeps him in the lime lite and strangers who doubt Lou is in control read your rants and decide to donate because they can’t afford not to. Irony with a capital I.

  10. WuLi says:

    Gary – while you make a great argument in favor of graft and bribes as a necessity to bring in this development – and I DID proclaim that this sort of investment is a good thing – Calhoun, Guess-Who and I have merely expressed concern of the ILLEGAL aspects.

    We would like to believe that positive development can happen in the county without the shady goings on.

    True to form for Lou’s defenders, you attempt to make this into an anti-Semitic attack rather than what it is, asking why a rabbi in Brooklyn would give to a politician in Bridgeton?

    What is the connection – maybe Neustadt is a family friend. If that is the connection – no problem at all.

    However, IF Neustadt is connected to Touro College – Touro College has a high level of alumni and financial supporters from the Neustadt Family in Red Bank, NJ – and if the donation to Lou’s FAILED NACo campaign had anything to do with influence on the ORIGINAL Necomb Hospital deal which included Danza and Touro – then the NJ State Attorney General, and in this case the FBI need to be looking very closely into this.

    Danza and Touro were involved in a scandal that eventually led to the downfall of Jim McGreevey. They were involved in another similar teaching hospital deal in north Jersey that led to indictments. Do Lou and Cumberland County make the third time a charm?

  11. jobba says:

    WTF ? that last comment makes no sense.

  12. Calhoun says:

    Gee, Gary a lot of questions! I take a stab at addressing them (they’re numbered below) below) and acknowledge that Wuli already covered some of this.

    1. When did Cumberland County become so prosperous that it could shun outside investment?

    It hasn’t. And since Lou has been Freeholder Director it has gotten less and less prosperous. No one here is complaining about outside business interests investing in the County. What we are complaining about is that many of these would be investors get shaken down by our politicians (i.e., make political contributions) before they can do business in the County. Our current system has created a superfluous political class. When in office, this political class wants significant political contributions from businesses. This of course impacts the businesses’ bottom lines and leads to increased costs for products or services rendered. If they are doing business with the government, then the government must pay more and this increases tax rates. When out of office, this political class continues to cash in on the system through being political appointees (e.g., Asselta) or lobbyists/consultants (e.g. Salmon). As a result, they also continue to increase the costs incurred by businesses and governments who employ or hire these people. In the end, we all pay.

    2, 3. How many of our home grown millionaires have stepped up for any community good that didn’t just have their name on it? Do Mr. Scarpas 100′s of millions show up without public money carrying the main burden?

    The Scarpas donated 3 million dollars to the project. Their donation is somehow nullified by the use of public money? What do you want to do? Call it the UEZ Regional Cancer Center Pavilion because UEZ kicked in 4 million dollars? Maybe you want to name it after a prominent Cumberland County politician who thinks he was instrumental in the development of UEZ? The Scarpas contributed the largest private contribution for the center, and I see no problem with their name going on it. I also see no problem with public funds being part of a formula to fund a cancer center. Do you think the Scarpa estate should have paid for the whole center? The Scarpas stepped up big time. Any implication otherwise is sour grapes.

    4. You and Wuli posted links to Jewish websites because it has a mysterious effect on your conspiracy story, not because anything in those links is directly related to anything you say you know. Where is the Catholic reference for Sweeny’s contribution? I’m sure he contributed to some church along the way that had a sex scandal.

    Again you’re the one who continues to bring religion into the discussion. First it was Judaism; now it’s Catholicism. The website could have been an atheist website, and I still would have cited it because it had a criticism of Neustadt in it. Now this criticism is an opinion for sure, but it’s there for people to read. And if you bother to read the website, the criticism charges more than making a contribution to a church that later had a scandal. I will further respond by outlining what I (hope) I would have done were I in Lou’s shoes when the donation came in from Neustadt. First, I would have asked, “Why is someone from Brooklyn giving me money?” Then I would have done a background check on him, and that would have been enough for me to send the money back. That’s the problem with so money politicians – they rarely seem to ask who is the person sending me money and why is he sending it? I will also respond to someone who said to me that Neustadt’s contribution was only $5K and thus no big deal. However, most individual contributions when taken in isolation are no big deal just like no individual cigarette kills a chain smoker.

    5, 6. Where is the moral high ground with the unions?
    They donated to Lou to undoubtedly get their members noticed or hired for work in the county. Now you cry because they are working? You also cry when they are laid off!

    The contributions of unions to campaigns in Cumberland County may be influencing contract awards to such an extent that contracts are no longer going to the lowest bidder. This issue is at the heart of Michael Vertolli’s lawsuit against the County. Now, ultimately the responsibility of the contract awards rests with the Freeholder Board but no one in his right mind who peruses County campaign reports and sees the huge sums of money that unions either directly (i.e., money given directly to Cumberland County politicians or the Cumberland County Democratic Organization) or indirectly (i.e., given to the campaigns of politicians or Democratic organizations who then in turn gave money to Cumberland County campaigns) contribute and not be appalled. The people being laid off are mostly low level union employees. Meanwhile political appointees in the county system continue to milk the system for all it’s worth. Thus, it is perfectly logical to simultaneously “cry” about the contributions unions make to campaigns and the laying off of low level union employees. The politically connected remain in the pink, while the hard-working joes get pink-slipped.

    7, 8. How about the non-union engineers and developers who contributed to Lou? Aren’t they just trying to get some recognition too? Did they do it for fun or did they feel the need to make their presence known in the tradition of ALL politics, through their money.

    I think you answered your own questions. Why is it that in politics the only way to make one’s presence known is through money? What’s wrong with a letter or phone call of introduction? Apply your same standard to personal relationships and what you have is prostitution plain and simple.

    9. How many opportunities did the R’s offer to loyal followers to contribute to their candidates via, PAC, lunch, dinner, cocktail party etc? It’s no mystery, it happens all of the time in both major parties.

    The Rs have one freeholder – who in my opinion is not speaking up nearly enough – and the Clerk’s office. Meanwhile the Ds have six freeholders, the surrogate, and the sheriff. I will worry about the excesses of the Rs when they are in the majority. Your “everyone does it” justification is as lame as it gets. That’s the old lame line kids use on their parents. Didn’t we all say something like this to our parents once: “But why can’t I go to the orgy? Everyone else is going!” And didn’t our parents then say something like: “And if everyone jumped off a bridge would you do that too?” And didn’t we as kids at that point shut our cryholes, knowing our parents had gotten the best of the argument?

    10, 11. And while we are talking about contributions when are you going to promote a candidate that promises to not appoint his party faithful and reward party contributors with contracts? Are there any out there?

    As soon as one comes forward, I will promote them. I actually think the Independents in the last campaign were pretty close to that. They ran with no party baggage. (And yes, they lost because running with no party baggage also means running with none of the party’s bags of money.)

    12. You and Wuli may not be clueless and your opinions may be founded on some facts but seriously, every dollar spent isn’t controlled by Lou. I bet Lou controls more than you but a lot less than you think. Fortunately for Lou your web presence keeps him in the lime light and strangers who doubt Lou is in control read your rants and decide to donate because they can’t afford not to. Irony with a capital I.

    You mean to tell me that people are contributing to Lou because of my web presence?! If that’s the case, then why the Hell hasn’t Lou written to thank me? It’s only common courtesy for Christ’s sake! And of course it’s “Irony with a capital I” because “irony” was the first word of the sentence. To not capitalize it would be sloppy typography.

    My primary beeves with your take on things is that you justify the status quo on the grounds that 1) everyone does it and 2) contributors give simply to make their presence known. I view this as a corruption of the system. One should give to a candidate because he/she believes in the candidate’s positions, ideals or whatever. Contributions should not be made to buy access; everyone should have access to their elected leaders, regardless of whether they give money or not. I know Gary, I need to grow up.

  13. Bridgeton Gary says:

    I’m not making an argument fr graft and bribes. Don’t be so obtuse. The point is that you mislead under the theory that “the ends justify the means “. The Jewish links lead one to consider that there MUST be a connection between the religion and the evil you say is just behind the curtain. Under the Wuli theory everyone is connected to everyone else no matter what they do or say. Is the fact that Neustadt is a “Rabbi” critical to your conspiracy theory or does saying Rabbi make you tingle? It’s obvious, the term rabbi is unnecessary unless it is descriptive of an attitude or reflective of a prejudice. It’s like saying the “Black” driver hit the pedestrian with his car. Maybe the rabbi is a bad dude, maybe not. You don’t know but you are totally willing to set up the accusation without any proof. Shame, Shame, Shame.

  14. WuLi says:

    Gary – you are the obtuse one – it is LOU MAGAZZU, and Not I that first referred to Neustadt as Rabbi.

    You are of the despicable sort that will play the race card – or in this case the anti-Semite card simply to cause distraction from the true story.

    I could care less whether Neustadt is a rabbi, a priest, or a bad joke.

    Try to distract as you may, the fact is that Touro College has been implicated in many scandals. The fact is, Touro was closely linked to Danza in the past. Fact is Neustadt of Brooklyn donated a lot of money to an obscure person for an obscure campaign in obscure Cumberland County, NJ. Most people north of Cherry Hill have never even HEARD of Cumberland County.There are too many questions – and I really don’t care if Neustadt is Jewish, Polish or Vulcan.

  15. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Wuli, I know you feel uncomfortable about the Rabbi comment because it is true. You may not really, really, feel like you are prejudiced but the evidence of prejudice is there. It’s like saying “I don’t care if someone is Blue, Green or Black”. Not much chance of running into a green person these days! Now why hate Tony Danza? is he guilty by association. Are you? Who do you hang with that isn’t somehow flawed? Wait, let me get my big note pad.

  16. WuLi says:

    Gary – like all cowards you refuse to debate the real issue and throw up smoke-screens. And you even lie about what I had said in order to make your non-point.

    If Neustadt was a child-molesting priest, I would be just as uncomfortable with him. You, on the other hand, have no problems with anybody as long as they support your hero Lou.

    If you check out the archives on this website, you will see that this is not the first time that the issue of Danza, Touro College and Neustadt appeared.

    It was Sheena Santiago that made the initial connection for us at MW. After digging we found the numerous legal infractions at Touro.

    It didn’t take long to discover the Touro-Cipel-McGreevery fiasco. This singular event led to the downfall of that governor.

    More digging revealed yet another shady deal for another teaching hospital in another county that eventually led to indictments.

    Then last year we find that Lou is talking to Danza and Touro after the revelations of the contribution to his slush fund by Neustadt.

    So stop blaming me if a College that is en-mired in this mess happens to be Jewish. They could have been Armenian for all I care. However, that connection was interesting simply because of the scandal that rocked New Jersey last year and resulted in more than a handful of corrupt politicians being indicted.

    So in this case – it IS the little things like that, that matter. They help connect the dots. And so while we at MW are concerned with weeding out corruption, it is Lou loyalists like you that are hell-bent on creating diversions and throwing out red herrings.

  17. Guess-Who says:

    Could I get a few WORDS in Here,

    The only reason for posting these links was to give MW viewers the opportunity to read about a Lou Magazzu NACo donor that gave him $5,000 for a Non-Political position in an Organization (2nd Vice President of NACo).

    Is offering the opportunity of INFORMATION so Disturbing to you b-Gary that you are making these False Claims & Statements as to WHY these Links were posted.
    You don’t jump to conclusions when making the DECISIONS that you make; due you b-Gary?

    A simple SEARCH on the INTERNET will RESULT in this & Other INFORMATION.

    Again I will ask you b-Gary since you are Speaking about this Donor,

    Why would an INDIVIDUAL from Brooklyn,NJ give Lou Magazzu $5,000 for his NACo campaign?

    Why did or How did this Individual know that Lou Magazzu was running for 2nd vice prez of NACo?

    Can you just Answer those Questions b-GARY?

    ———————————————-
    Checks and Balance make the County a Better Place

  18. jobba says:

    Guess Who, you just shifted from “a rabbi from Brooklyn” to ” an individual from Brooklyn” . That sort of makes Garys comments valid.

  19. Calhoun says:

    Gary, of course you’re not making an argument for graft and bribes. Who would? But how does one explain all the outside money that Lou and the Dems accept from outside sources? How does one accept the rather remarkable correlation between out-of-county donations and contract being awarded to out-of-county firms? If you really believe there is no correlation then your the obtuse one.

    Your assertion that those who used “rabbi” in the Neustsad discussion are prejudiced because it is like someone saying the “‘black’ driver hit the pedestrian…” is ridiculous. It is in no way like saying “the black driver”!!! “Rabbi” is a formal religious title for one who leads a Jewish congregation. And it is wholly appropriate to refer to such a person using his or her title. Other examples would be cantor, sheikh, ayatollah, Dalai Lama, pope, cardinal, bishop, reverend. Just because one criticizes someone who happens to have a formal religious title and uses the title when referring to that person does not mean that person is somehow bringing religion into the subject. Newspapers almost always use such titles when such figures are referenced. Why should this be any different? Your charge of prejudice where there is none is as bad as prejudice itself. And Jobba, Guess Who’s shift from “rabbi” to “individual” proves nothing.

    Speaking of rabbis did you the hear the one about the rabbi, priest and preacher who walked into the bar?

    [Note: Bridgeton Gary and Jobba please stop reading you will be offended by my use of religious titles in my writing. You have been warned.]

    A priest, a preacher and a Rabbi were in their favorite bar. They decided they would all go out into the woods and attempt to convert a bear. Later, they got together to discuss their experiences.

    Father Flannery (arm in a sling, on crutches, heavily bandaged): “Well,I went into the woods to find me a bear. And when I found him I began to read to him from the Catechism. That bear wanted nothing to do with me and began to slap me around. So I quickly grabbed my holy water, sprinkled him and, he became as gentle a lamb.”

    Reverend Billy Bob (in a wheelchair, arms and legs in casts): “Well, you know that we don’t sprinkle. So, I began to read to my bear from God’s Holy Word. But that bear wanted nothing to do with me. So I took hold of him and we began to wrestle. We wrestled down one hill, up another and down another until we came to a river, where I dunked and baptized him. And just like you said, he became as gentle as a lamb.”

    Rabbi Horowitz (lying in a hospital bed, in a body cast and in traction with numerous IVs and monitors): “Looking back, circumcision may not have been the best way to start.”

  20. Bridgeton Gary says:

    That is funny, old but funny. You left out the part where the bear broke out of a zoo built by Danza and Rabbi Neustadt was involved in buying a municipal bond to finance the zoo and Gov McGreevy approved the sale of the state bond and Cipel carried the Governors order to the state EDA personally so Lou is the devil.

  21. Curious says:

    Iam Curious why everyone is wasting their time on this discussion. The Magazzu team needs to carry Vineland & Bridgeton in the November election. That is the only reason for the medical school song & dance. This will be big news through Nov. Iam Curious if we will hear about it again afterwards. Every year we get one of these dog & pony shows. Magazzu is controlling the conversation again. Change the subject from his destruction of the county finances, dangle jobs for the construction trades.
    What happened to the prosecoutors office,Vine Stret School,Tech Ed. expansion,Juvenile detention center upgrade, Veterans Chapel?
    Just more smoke and mirrors to get the unions to work for the “team”. Magazzu depends on short memories. The sad part is that it works everytime

  22. jobba says:

    The memory problem is huge. Posters on this blog also forget how ineffective they have become because they simply don’t field electable candidates. Cry and moan about Louis but never really provide an alternative. Get yourselves a candidate. That is your only hope. Otherwise all you do is tear down the effort of all to oppose the one. Spector lost, a tea party guy won in KY, they had candidates. The old He is bad vote against him story isn’t working. That memory thing again.

  23. WuLi says:

    Last election the R’s fielded three excellent candidates – one got in. This election we have two excellent candidates again, and I predict that both will slide in easily.

  24. jobba says:

    I think fiocchi only. The question is which dem falls. The union guy or the teacher.

  25. WuLi says:

    Carl Kirstein is an excellent candidate – deep roots in the community, a long history of volunteerism…

    I heard today that Pepitone was considering not running. That is purely a rumor at this time.

  26. JamesRSauro says:

    Some very interesting reading. We do have two excellent candidates. If people go by their qualifications they will win hands down.
    I don’t know who this Gary guy is but he is very good at taking all of you off your message. That my friends is a typical democrat move. Or am I being racist in a different fashion.

  27. jobba says:

    Must…………..Keep………..On………Message
    Must…………..Keep………..On………Message

    Repeat after me

    Must…………..Keep………..On………Message
    Must…………..Keep………..On………Message

    What is the message? is this the Island of Doctor Morreau?

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