Lou – “Stop ignoring local businesses!”

Candidates challenging Lou Magazzu’s political machine this fall are coming out with issues. In today’s The News they broached a subject covered here on occasion – the subject of Lou ignoring local business and awarding contracts to Camden County political donors at higher bids.  Let’s see how long it takes for Lou’s slander campaign to kick into high gear, as he avoids the questions.

Stop ignoring local businesses when awarding county contracts

It was recently reported that Cumberland County is being sued by a local contractor for not being awarded a bid to install telephone and data lines in county buildings in spite of the fact that they were the lowest bidder.

This is the exact same situation that was recently reported with respect to bids for engineering work at the proposed new prosecutor’s office in Bridgeton. Again, a local firm was denied the contract in spite of being the lowest bid.

In both instances, after the bidding process was completed, the freeholders had the county re-bid the projects when county businesses were the winners of the bids. Does our Democratically controlled freeholder board understand that the lower the bid, the less taxpayer money is spent? Do they not realize that our county has the worst unemployment rate in the state?

Do the Democrats not understand that when county businesses do well, they hire more workers who spend more money that trickles down to everyone in the county. The Democratic freeholders have historically demonstrated that they are not concerned with creating jobs within the county, but would rather spend our taxpayer money in other counties throughout state. It appears that the Democrats are taking care of their friends, not the taxpayer.

As freeholder candidates, if elected, we would explore the idea of giving county businesses a competitive business advantage of a 2 percent bidding premium that will assist county businesses in obtaining county contracts. This will create county jobs and ensure that our taxpayers’ money stays within Cumberland County. And we will treat the bidders fairly the first time.

Sam Fiocchi
Carl Kirstein


20 Responses to Lou – “Stop ignoring local businesses!”

  1. Curious says:

    Iam Curious if anyone remembers how Magazzu used to rail about buying local. He was always critical of the the purchasing department for not reaching out to local vendors. What a crock.
    FYI Veight did not mention that no one else applied for the Fairfield administrator position. They may have no choice but to hire him. Sad day for Fairfield.

  2. Hang 'em High says:

    Hope he shows up for work as the administrator more often than he showed up for court as prosecutor……..

  3. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Sam has a point. Go local if they are qualified, but only if they are qualified. Being local doesn’t mean you are as skilled as every bidder. If Lou and Company think the local bidder(s) aren’t as qualified they might be sparing them the embarrassment of saying so.

  4. WuLi says:

    Gary – the problem is that many bidders have been pre-qualified – that means they ARE qualified. But they were tossed aside to allow for higher bidders – higher bidders who were donors to the party. That is pay-to-play, and in case you haven’t heard, it is illegal.

  5. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Wuli, why not OPRA the bids?

  6. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Why not ask the losers for copies of their bids? They probably have copies of the winning bids too. Then you will have something to talk about, not just rumors and extrapolation.

  7. WuLi says:

    Once again you distract from the issue. The issue is – the losers were “pre-qualified”. That means they were qualified for the job they bid on in advance – and by law the job goes to the lowest bidder – and NOT to Lou’s favorite contributor.

  8. jobba says:

    I don’t see any distraction here. The bids had to be different, didn’t they? Don’t companies lay out how they will accomplish the task? One bid might say tile the floor and another might say carpet. There has to be a difference in the bids or the losers would be squawking. Maybe it’s the mobilization issue. Some bidders might have the staff to do the work while others need to hire others to do the work. Somebody should find out.

  9. Gilgamesh says:

    A bid is a bid. The county lays out what they want. You answer that desire with a bid. If you are qualified, pre qualified, or whatever the job requires and you bid the lowest you should get the job. If your cost go over you eat it and the building is done at a loss for you.

    Preception is reality. Lou continues to send work out of the county and then rail about the high unemployment rate. Everytime he sends work to Camden he takes jobs away from county residents.

    But again he doesn’t and never has cared about county residents… except during an election year…

  10. Bridgeton Gary says:

    A bid is not always a bid. There are issues addressed like how engineering will be addressed and how long the job will take. Get the bids and compare them. That’s the only way to determine if the bids were apples to apples. Don’t be naive by thinking all bids are the same and price is the only issue. I also would rather see locals get the work but not at the expense of the success of the project.

    Think about your doctor. Are they the best in all fields or only one? If your doctor bid for the job of brain surgeon but had limited time in the surgical theater would you choose them over someone who had years of experience? Both are “licensed” and pre-approved.

  11. Guess-Who says:

    Didn’t one of the BIDS have an ESTIMATE of 967 Hours on the Vine Street Historic Building?

    They were even the LOWEST or 2nd Lowest BIDDER on this purposed project, Yet they were TOLD to RE-SUMMIT a BID, WHY???

    Remember that this Historic Building is SUPPOSED to

    be CONVERTED into the New Cumberland County

    PROSECUTORS Office Building.

    At this Time the FREEHOLDERS are 2 1/2 years PAST DUE on their AGREEMENT!

    This being the RESULT of the $12 Million Settlement in the Bigley Lawsuit filed by the previous Prosecutor.

    So IF a Contractor meets the CRITERIA the County has in Place besides the fact that they are or are Not Pre-QUALIFIED,
    should they then Summit a BID to the SPECS of the PLANS or WAIT for the County’s plans PLAN’S before Submitting a Final BID?

    What do U think b-Gary?

    Checks and Balance make the County a Better Place

  12. WuLi says:

    The point may as well be moot if Louie Lou-lie moves to Chicago this year. I guess that is one way to escape the watchful eye of MW!

    Anyone want to fill his job?

  13. Guess-Who says:

    April 1st was last month,
    Is IT Rumor or Fact?

  14. WuLi says:

    Everything is rumor until it is proved a fact!

    What can you tell me about the sign in front of the former Newcomb Hospital?

    Did an honest Vineland politician do the right thing recently?

    This, and much, much more to be coming your way!

  15. Guess-Who says:

    I honestly DON’T Know about this that U are asking…

    Elaborate as much as U can without tipping anything off; only IF u can.

    Are we invited to the Early bird preview of the Starving Artist Sale?

  16. WuLi says:

    It has to do with the Neustadt/Developer Danza connection – I can’t call Neustadt a rabbi because that makes me anti-Semitic.

    It looks like Lou is running – going out of town to avoid everything crashing down on him.

  17. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Quit your cryin Wuli. You may not be a racist but you are biased.

    Guess-Who. If I recall the bids were dramatically out of wack. one bid 900 hours and another bid thousands of hours. Obviously there was a difference in the concept or scope. get the bids, look at them, know what you are talking about.

  18. Guess-Who says:

    One WORD is the key “SPECS” in my previous post!

    Aren’t Bids only to the SPECS that the County has provided to the Contractor[s]?

    Did someone give or get a more DETAILED set of plan[s] to one of the Bidders?

    You might be surprised b-Gary to know that I could Care Less what U think or BELIEVE.

    The FACTS are Stubborn Things!

    So IF a Contractor meets the CRITERIA the County has in Place besides the fact that they are or are Not Pre-QUALIFIED,
    should they then Summit a BID to the SPECS of the PLANS or WAIT for the County’s plans PLAN’S & those “SPECS” before Submitting a Final BID?

    How to PROCEED is the ? that most Contractor[s] must be Asking themselves, Do U have some Advice or an Opinion b-Gary for the Locals that are Considering Bidding on Projects within Cumberland County,NJ?

  19. jobba says:

    Guess-Who, don’t be so sensitive. I agree with you that bidders should bid from the same specs. The question raised is really why were the bids so wildly different? Where they the same bids or did the locals just miss something?

    PS: If you could care less what b-Gary says does that mean you care more now? It’s a funny phrase that everyone gets wrong.

  20. Bridgeton Gary says:

    Guess-who, why are you so negative about me. If it wasn’t for me 20% OF THIS BLOG WOULD BE EMPTY. Just because I suggest that you actually LOOK at a document you go off half cocked and get all psycho?

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